Statement of fact re: RDM Maat

[Yuri-G]

If you go more than 1/4 (and that's generous) on RDM Maat, you are doing it wrong.

I'm tired of hearing so many people whine about him. I guarantee you anyone going 1/10 or more has one of four problems:
- crap gear
- uncapped skills
- panicking during the fight
- bad strategy

Am I the only one here who thought he was a pushover? I need someone to commiserate with me on this, or I'm going to end up thinking I'm just that damn good at this game. And I really doubt that's the case.

FYI the job levels in my sig are accurate, and I beat him 1/2.

[skurlover]

Thanks.

[Fadian]

I laugh at people who say you need to buff before you engage maat.... LOL. Sure let maat get up shell, stoneskin, blink, haste. hey at least you will survive for another... oh 5 seconds.


Why can't people learn that after 70 level's on RDM.... to get the advantage... RUSH in first. sheesh.


crap gear you say? come on, just your basic AF. and some INT gear is all you need. oh hell, buy a melon pie. lol.


If people can't beat maat on rdm after the first 3 tries. level another job so you can whine about it and not being able to defeat maat.

[Keria]

I agree despite your obvious :rocl: :rocl: :rocl: boast thread.

[shihei]

I thought everyone that mattered beat Maat 3 years ago.

[Keria]

Not the people that matter on Alla.

[Yuri-G]

I agree despite your obvious :rocl: :rocl: :rocl: boast thread.

I can see why you'd think that, but I beat him months ago. I was just reading a thread today on alla (I know, figures) where a guy was complaining about RDM Maat, and everybody was agreeing and sympathizing and all this crap, and it drove me nuts, I'm so tired of hearing that he's hard when he's not. I figured if anyone would agree with my point of view on him, it would be BG.

So to sum things up, this thread is really me bitching about allatards and KIdiots, I guess.

[Suiram]

Since this is the Newbie Advice section, I'm going to give you some advice: You don't look as cool as you might think you do bragging about how skilled you are and complaining about "Allatards and KIdiots." This is true of everyone, but only magnified by the fact that your highest job is 68 and you only beat Maat some months ago.

[IncredibleGulk]

pretty sure we all know they exist. just leave it there

[Isiolia]

RDM Maat is a good deal about luck. At this stage of the game, strategies on beating him are pretty well known. Still doesn't mean things can't go wrong.
It's not impossibly hard, it's simply one where there's no 100% strategy to win with, other than "go get another testimony and try again". There's always the possibility that he'll Asuran Fist back to back, or Chainspell nukes after sleep resists, or whatever.

Really, Alla has at least one post a week like this from someone who walked in, things all went their way, and won first try, so they feel compelled to come tell everyone how easy it is/how to do it.

I figured if anyone would agree with my point of view on him, it would be BG.

...and that's why BG has the rep it does I guess. If you really know your shit, prove it by helping people instead of belittling them.

[Lexa]

RDM Maat is a good deal about luck. At this stage of the game, strategies on beating him are pretty well known. Still doesn't mean things can't go wrong.
It's not impossibly hard, it's simply one where there's no 100% strategy to win with, other than "go get another testimony and try again". There's always the possibility that he'll Asuran Fist back to back, or Chainspell nukes after sleep resists, or whatever.

Really, Alla has at least one post a week like this from someone who walked in, things all went their way, and won first try, so they feel compelled to come tell everyone how easy it is/how to do it.

I figured if anyone would agree with my point of view on him, it would be BG.

...and that's why BG has the rep it does I guess. If you really know your shit, prove it by helping people instead of belittling them.

hsfjhgushrghhrgjksbh I was literally typing out almost exactly every word you have in your post. "Another post has been made to the thread..." yadda yadda. Curse your soul.

To the OP: You're leet because you didn't get unlucky like some people simply do. We get it.

[shihei]

I'm so sick of THF Maat newbs who go 1/5 stealing or have crazy gilbuyering gears and they actually melee him. I mean I went 1/1 on it, I AM A BEAST.It's a trap.

[Yuri-G]

RDM Maat is a good deal about luck. At this stage of the game, strategies on beating him are pretty well known. Still doesn't mean things can't go wrong.
It's not impossibly hard, it's simply one where there's no 100% strategy to win with, other than "go get another testimony and try again". There's always the possibility that he'll Asuran Fist back to back, or Chainspell nukes after sleep resists, or whatever.

Really, Alla has at least one post a week like this from someone who walked in, things all went their way, and won first try, so they feel compelled to come tell everyone how easy it is/how to do it.

I figured if anyone would agree with my point of view on him, it would be BG.

...and that's why BG has the rep it does I guess. If you really know your shit, prove it by helping people instead of belittling them.

hsfjhgushrghhrgjksbh I was literally typing out almost exactly every word you have in your post. "Another post has been made to the thread..." yadda yadda. Curse your soul.

To the OP: You're leet because you didn't get unlucky like some people simply do. We get it.

That's not what I said, and if it came across that way then I said it wrong. My point is that winning or losing should be about one thing: luck. A lot of people, however, lose when they should have won, and then blame it on "luck" when that's not why they got their asses kicked. I.E. didn't cap their skills and blamed a resisted sleep on luck.

And FYI, I did make a post explaining exactly what is necessary to beat Maat, it was pretty long and detailed. I'm not an asshole, just cranky today.

[Kkel]

I'm sick of all those Beastman mobs getting rocked into the ground by Maat over and over again. I mean, if they can't even put him out for the count, how are they ever going to beat all of us plus the Allied Army of Altana?

[shihei]

I'm sick of all those Beastman mobs getting rocked into the ground by Maat over and over again. I mean, if they can't even put him out for the count, how are they ever going to beat all of us plus the Allied Army of Altana?

They don't. How do I know this you must be asking? Wellll....Its started with a newspaper personal add. NOT A RICK ROLL

[Kkel]

So the real reason the Beastmen lose the Crystal War is because none of them can get past level 70?

[Isiolia]

That's not what I said, and if it came across that way then I said it wrong. My point is that winning or losing should be about one thing: luck. A lot of people, however, lose when they should have won, and then blame it on "luck" when that's not why they got their asses kicked. I.E. didn't cap their skills and blamed a resisted sleep on luck.

Even with capped skills n' such, you can still get a resist. You can still have the AI choose things that don't benefit you. Or that do. It's not just this fight.

It's not a matter of going in naked and blindly spamming macros, no. You do want to prepare and have a strategy. However, the best laid plans can still get screwed up. Generally, you just want to factor that in and use a strategy that takes fewer chances.

Generally speaking, people who win on their first or second try don't understand that about the fight.

[Quizno]

Didn't they nerf rdm maat like 2 years ago? Or was that a dream? Seriously.

[Yuri-G]

That's not what I said, and if it came across that way then I said it wrong. My point is that winning or losing should be about one thing: luck. A lot of people, however, lose when they should have won, and then blame it on "luck" when that's not why they got their asses kicked. I.E. didn't cap their skills and blamed a resisted sleep on luck.

Even with capped skills n' such, you can still get a resist. You can still have the AI choose things that don't benefit you. Or that do. It's not just this fight.

It's not a matter of going in naked and blindly spamming macros, no. You do want to prepare and have a strategy. However, the best laid plans can still get screwed up. Generally, you just want to factor that in and use a strategy that takes fewer chances.

Generally speaking, people who win on their first or second try don't understand that about the fight.

Aren't you pretty much agreeing with me, though? The RDM Maat fight is about making the random factor, the luck factor, as small of an influence as possible. If you go 1/10 or 1/15 on the fight, there's no way that's all due to bad luck, there's an issue with the way you're approaching it. This is what I was trying to say.

And I may have gone 1/2 but I could have easily taken a few more tries if Maat had decided to mess with me, I understand that.

In retrospect, my approach to this thread was definitely not what I meant it to be... my bad. All I'm saying is, Maat on RDM is built up to be this huge difficult practically unbeatable battle and it's not at all. It's not easy, but with the right head on your shoulders anyone should be able to beat it after a few tries.

[Isiolia]

Didn't they nerf rdm maat like 2 years ago? Or was that a dream? Seriously.

Was longer than that, but RDM Maat was nerfed yeah.

Aren't you pretty much agreeing with me, though? The RDM Maat fight is about making the random factor, the luck factor, as small of an influence as possible. If you go 1/10 or 1/15 on the fight, there's no way that's all due to bad luck, there's an issue with the way you're approaching it. This is what I was trying to say.

And I may have gone 1/2 but I could have easily taken a few more tries if Maat had decided to mess with me, I understand that.

In retrospect, my approach to this thread was definitely not what I meant it to be... my bad. All I'm saying is, Maat on RDM is built up to be this huge difficult practically unbeatable battle and it's not at all. It's not easy, but with the right head on your shoulders anyone should be able to beat it after a few tries.

Basically I'd agree. In some circles it's built up to be incredibly hard, but primarily it's just the randomness that can happen. It'd be possible to fail that much with a good strat, but I'd agree, rather unlikely, since at some point it should occur to you to modify something in your approach.

It's more the attitude present in your first post, and what one tends to see on Alla on a weekly basis. Though you have now, most aren't quick to acknowledge when things simply went their way where they didn't for someone else.