Migawari and Igi Ningi +2

[Kirschy]

Additional Information has been gathered by others and this post has been updated accordingly.

I decided to make a separate thread instead of just throwing this in the Math Redux forum since the results are fairly useful and different than what was commonly believed.

Migawari will annul damage from attacks that are a certain percentage of your max HP. This activation percentage is directly affects by your ninjutsu skill during casting.
-At 323 skill, the activation % is about 95%
-At 375 skill, the activation % is about 83%
-At 383 skill, the activation % is about 81%
This suggests around 20 skill = an extra 5% on activation %. (This is an estimate, further testing is needed.)

Having AF3+2 Body equipped while Migawari is active will raise the activation % by around 10%.

AF3+2 needs to be equipped when taking the damage to gain the boost. (Like other AF3, the bonus is only granted while the piece is equipped. Casting Migwari naked and putting on AF3 body after will still grant you the bonus.)

Testing/Data @ 323 Ninjutsu Skill:

No AF3+2:
1004 HP (99.6%) - Annul
1024 HP (97.7%) - Annul
1049 HP (95.3%) - Annul
1064 HP (94.0%) - Damaged

AF3+2 on during Cast + Damage:
1301 HP (76.8%) - Damaged
1265 HP (79.1%) - Damaged
1184 HP (84.5%) - Damaged
1154 HP (86.7%) - Annul

Cast Migawari in AF3+2 Body, then remove:
1154 HP (86.7%) - Damaged

Cast Migawari naked, then equip AF3+2 body:
1154 HP (86.7%) - Annul

I have SS for most of this if anyone wants them, but they don't realli say much. Here's the one I uploaded before I got lazy:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4717/mig1.png

[jimbobsonofgod]

Kirschy don't ever get salvage banned.

[Odin'sLaw]

<3 Kirschy but didn't someone already work it out to 75% awhile ago?

[Yugl]

Well she's saying it's 85% not 75%.

[Taint]

Awesome thanks!

[Kirschy]

<3 Kirschy but didn't someone already work it out to 75% awhile ago?

That's what I had heard too. But the following tests show that isn't the case. (It's possible it was changed, but what matters is how it works now.)

AF3+2 on during Cast + Damage:
1301 HP (76.8%) - Damaged
1265 HP (79.1%) - Damaged
1184 HP (84.5%) - Damaged
1154 HP (86.7%) - Annul

[Odin'sLaw]

well if 76.8 (lets say 77%) then who ever did basic testing (presumed he eyeballed) he/she wasn't to far off

[Yugl]

It's not 77% though, it's 85%. You can see that from 76.8-79.1% that damage occurred.

[jimbobsonofgod]

<3 Kirschy but didn't someone already work it out to 75% awhile ago?

This is 85% correct.

[Odin'sLaw]

so if its 85% then it doesn't change from the +1 version then since it was reported to block 85%

[Arthars]

wiki people assumed that +2 it is 75%. Its true +1 is 85% but it could be occasionally 85% and u still get a chance to get damaged from 85-95%...+2 prolly makes it 85% perma

[Byrthnoth]

Its true +1 is 85% but it could be occasionally 85% and u still get a chance to get damaged from 85-95%...+2 prolly makes it 85% perma

Are you sure about this? I would guess that +1 is 90% (95% without any -> 90% with +1 -> 85% with +2)

[Sylvrdragon]

Lol. Someone farm Kirchy up 10 more Body Seals!

[Arthars]

idk man but kirchy got solid proof that +2 is 85%, they may have ninja fixed but like he said, its all about how it works now

for those that still think +2 is 75% then i can only say how +1 MIGHT work(occasionally annul 85%) that misled people to think its 75% for +2

[Malacite]

Weird data... so as long as the AF3 body is on during casting or prior to being hit it counts?

[Clash Perez]

Casting in it doesn't matter. To get the enhanced effect, it must be equipped when the damage is to be dealt.

[Massimo]

Holy fucking shit. She laid everything out so perfectly for you people. How are some of you so fucking stupid.

No, it's not occasionally something else. No, you don't have to wear it during casting. No, 77% isn't almost 85%. Fucking fuck. Fuck.

[Fievel]

Holy fucking shit. She laid everything out so perfectly for you people. How are some of you so fucking stupid.

No, it's not occasionally something else. No, you don't have to wear it during casting. No, 77% isn't almost 85%. Fucking fuck. Fuck.

I don't get it.

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<3

[NynJa]

What about 82%? What about moon phases? What about converts MP>HP gear?

[FailureMidgard]

What about 82%? What about moon phases? What about converts MP>HP gear?

Funny you bring this up, 'cause either it was changed, or there actually is something with convert gear vs -hp gear vs PDT gear. The 75% on +2 thing seems to be some rumor floating with no data at all to support it (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't seen it though), but the original tests vs these tests are in disagreement on the 95 vs 100% deal, which really can't be explained any way other than it was randomly changed in the last patch, or some gear is treated differently...