Sandworm

[Wulfgang]

I have been camping Sandworm for a long time. Put ethical issues aside for now; we use DS scanners in all zones. 95%+ of the time, Sandworm is a 20-25 hour spawn from Doomvoid time. Once every few months, Sandworm will simply skip a day.

When I say skip a day, I mean we have DS scanners in all zones + 1 real person with 0 competition from 20 hours from death to 25:30. Throughout the day I will run through the zones to double check bodies, and none have moved and there are no 100% ones either (from a depop).

The next day (after skip), Sandworm window will occur as if yesterday never happened. For example if it died Day 1 at 11PM, window opens at 7PM on Day 2, it will simply never spawn on Day 2, and it will spawn from 7 PM to midnight on Day 3. Had a conversation with a GM today since I find this behavior to be a huge waste of time. Less than helpful as expected. Anyone else notice this?

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[Murdock]

yeah I've had it happen a few times in the past. there was a topic on it a long time ago iirc, i'm too lazy to look tho.

[Shinsei]

Your first mistake was actually thinking there's a GM that actually know how this game works lol.

Overall, Sandworm has been largely known to have a day where it doesn't pop in the past. However, these occurences were frequently noticed months ago and as of recently I have not seen a no pop day on my server for a long time. This is solely based on my own gaming experience.

[nitsuj]

Maybe the no pop days coincide with problems with Moblin Maze Monger "Emergency Maintenances " ?

[Rocl]

I haven't killed Sandworm in like 500 years but it could have anything to do with what mob you fight inside? Specifically Lambton? I have no idea, I did notice retarded patterns, and remember people finding two Sandworms in 4 hours, so I just chalk it up to this mob is fucked up.

[Narse]

Personally have had a back to back Sandworm before. We got sucked in, won the fight, and within 15 minutes of leaving the zone we discovered it was up again in another zone.

[Fievel]

Personally have had a back to back Sandworm before. We got sucked in, won the fight, and within 15 minutes of leaving the zone we discovered it was up again in another zone.

I find this kind of hard to believe ;x

but if its true that's pretty amazing

[Mizango]

Your first mistake was actually thinking there's a GM that actually know how this game works lol.

Precisely what I was going to say lol.

Personally have had a back to back Sandworm before. We got sucked in, won the fight, and within 15 minutes of leaving the zone we discovered it was up again in another zone.

Wow, that's the first I've heard of that one. Then again I've seen weirder shit in the wonderful world of FFXI. Out of curiosity did it occur after a maintenance? After an update or was it just an average run of the mill day? No real reason I'm asking besides being genuinely curious.

[Electro]

Precisely what I was going to say lol.



Wow, that's the first I've heard of that one. Then again I've seen weirder shit in the wonderful world of FFXI. Out of curiosity did it occur after a maintenance? After an update or was it just an average run of the mill day? No real reason I'm asking besides being genuinely curious.

Like what? I'm just curious.

[Iremire]

Yeah we have definitely fought Lambton worm, then exited the fight and got a tell from some guy telling us sandworm was up in (zone) and we went and killed it again. But this was back in the duping days so not sure if it's done it since then.

Sandworm is just a piece of shit fucked up mob.

[vagus]

I find this kind of hard to believe ;x

but if its true that's pretty amazing

It's rare, but it's happened before.

[Mizango]

Like what? I'm just curious.

I'm curious as to why you're so curious.

[Aeowin]

I find this kind of hard to believe ;x

but if its true that's pretty amazing

Before one of the recent patches there was a Reraise bug. Meaning if your reraise was absorbed by Purgation on either Sandworm or Lambton (I don't recall which) Sandworm used said reraise and repopped x amount of time later.

Was fixed when reraise was made un-dispelable.

We've had several skipped days before and it's rather annoying, but I think what's more annoying are Sandworms that refuse to Doomvoid because Everbloom is full of Moblin Maze Monger people.

[Rocl]

I'm more upset when I can't into MMM because there's so many people fighting some dumb crab

[Yarko]

For us, Sandworm seemed to double pop (twice in the same day) 1 to 3 days after it had skipped a pop, and it didn't seem linked to reraise or anything. The second pop could happen anywhere from right away to 4ish hrs after the first one died. Haven't had a double pop ever since sandworm was patched as far as I know though. I remember someone posted a screenshot of a conversation with a GM who said sandworm may not pop if certain zone conditions are met... it could be something rare and retarded like, if Sandworm is meant to pop in a zone, and say it has wind weather on, it will skip a day (wind > earth blabla). Skipped days did seem to happen a lot more often in the past though, so the bug theory is likely.... I guess we'll never know.

Btw, are you sure sandworm is really 20-25? Personally i've never seen it go past 24hrs if we started camping from the 20th hour, I'm convinced it will go past 24h only if you miss a depop and see a repop.

[Wulfgang]

It no longer double pops but it certainly used to. It is definitely up to 25 hours as well, have had a dozen or more pops occur from 24:30 to 25:00.

I don't think there's a solution, just wanted to put it out there and see what others' experience with it was.

[WhysoPherbius]

I haven't killed Sandworm in like 500 years but it could have anything to do with what mob you fight inside? Specifically Lambton? I have no idea, I did notice retarded patterns, and remember people finding two Sandworms in 4 hours, so I just chalk it up to this mob is fucked up.

Ive camped/killed well over 200 SWs and notice that this "glitch" seems to always happen after a Lambton SW. Anyone else notice this too? Im speculating that it skips its window after a Lambton SW pops in each region (like windy, sandy, bastok) or in each zone (all 7 zones) that SW pops in. It happens to my server like once every month to two months. Again this is just a guess who knows what kinda screwed up programming SE has for SW.

[FailureMidgard]

Ive camped/killed well over 200 SWs and notice that this "glitch" seems to always happen after a Lambton SW. Anyone else notice this too? Im speculating that it skips its window after a Lambton SW pops in each region (like windy, sandy, bastok) or in each zone (all 7 zones) that SW pops in. It happens to my server like once every month to two months. Again this is just a guess who knows what kinda screwed up programming SE has for SW.

Was supposedly a KA on Phoenix yesterday (I can't say this is 100% accurate) and it didn't pop today.

[Diomer]

Ive camped/killed well over 200 SWs and notice that this "glitch" seems to always happen after a Lambton SW. Anyone else notice this too? Im speculating that it skips its window after a Lambton SW pops in each region (like windy, sandy, bastok) or in each zone (all 7 zones) that SW pops in. It happens to my server like once every month to two months. Again this is just a guess who knows what kinda screwed up programming SE has for SW.

This server it always occurs on a likely Lambton Worm day

[Wulfgang]

It had always been after LW until today. Yesterday was Serket in MM, today no pop.