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    Resistance Builds

    Having a hard time finding information on moves of specific mobs and what their damage is actually considered and how to help build a resistance against such moves so any help would be appreciated.
    Heat Breath- Is it considered Breath Damage? Will -magic damage taken help against it? Will MDB+ help against it? Is it considered fire damage so + Fire resistance will help against it? Which of all would help most against it?

    Great Sandstorm- Will -magic damage taken gear help with this? Will an earth resistance build help against this? Will MDB+ help against this? Which would help most? If none what will help against this?

    Great Whirlwind- Will -magic damage taken help agaibst this? Will a wind resistance build help against this? Will MDB+ help against this? Which would help most? If none what will help against this?

    Hurricane Wing- Will -magic damage taken help against this? Will a wind resistance build help against this? Will MDB+ help against this? Which would help most? If none what will help against this?

    Dragon Breath- Obviously -breath damage taken would help against this but being Nin you really don't get access to this kind of gear much at all. I understand that a fire resistance build will help greatly against this but is it considered magic damage as well so MDB+ and -magic damage taken will help against this also? If not is there anything else that will help against this?

    Spike Flail- lol j/k

    Thanks for your help and input in advance.

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    Re: Resistance Builds

    Breath damage, including Heat Breath from monsters and Dragon Breath isn't affected by TMDA (magic damage taken -%). Not sure about MDB, maybe? but I doubt it. Not sure about barspells of the element.

    Hurricane Wing is affected by TMDA, not sure if Sandstorm and Whirlwind are classified as magic damage, but I'd imagine they are, in which case they should be affected by it too. Not sure about MDB, although in the case of Wing I seem to recall MDB working, but it's been a while. Fafnir's is constant enough to where you could verify it very easily. Also I'm pretty sure it's either dark-based or unaffected by bar/carol, because the common consensus is that baraero does nothing.

    Spike Flail is physical damage + knockback.

    But if you're asking how best to reduce damage against Kirin and Fafnir specifically, the answer for Whirlwind and Sandstorm is "Run out of range" if you're kiting, while the answer for Dragon Breath is "Don't stand in its face" and likewise for Spike Flail, "Don't stand on its side or behind".

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    Re: Resistance Builds

    thx Suiram..

    but wat about elemental resistance dose it affect if we have like barfire agenst dragon breath?

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    Re: Resistance Builds

    Yes I do believe that barfire and fire carol would work against that and having a huge amount of + fire element equipped would help largely as well because I have seen SS's of people building resists for fire against megaflare and Tiamat's moves while hes in the air dropping each shit to between 50-80 dmg which is awesome. I just wasn't sure if like Hurricane Wing and Great Whirlwind and Sandstorm were actually elemental based moves. If they are magic based moves at least you can gear up towards them somewhat with more +MND and gear like Merman's rings and Earring + Resesmnent Cape or Lamia Mantle. If they are elemental based moves then equipping as much of that element + would probably help a great deal it's just finding out wether they are elemental based moves or not.

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    Re: Resistance Builds

    Breath damage isn't affected by shell/magic damage taken or MDB.

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    Re: Resistance Builds

    Quote Originally Posted by Aragon of Odin
    Yes I do believe that barfire and fire carol would work against that and having a huge amount of + fire element equipped would help largely as well because I have seen SS's of people building resists for fire against megaflare and Tiamat's moves while hes in the air dropping each shit to between 50-80 dmg which is awesome. I just wasn't sure if like Hurricane Wing and Great Whirlwind and Sandstorm were actually elemental based moves. If they are magic based moves at least you can gear up towards them somewhat with more +MND and gear like Merman's rings and Earring + Resesmnent Cape or Lamia Mantle. If they are elemental based moves then equipping as much of that element + would probably help a great deal it's just finding out wether they are elemental based moves or not.
    Pretty sure Hurricane Wing is physical not magical. At least in Nyzul Isle, when we used to get Fafnir, drinking Fanatic's drink (Nullifies physical damage) would result in me getting hit for 0 damage by Fafnir's Wing spams. Whether bar-element spells help reduce its damage, I'm not sure.

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    Re: Resistance Builds

    Quote Originally Posted by Shojin
    Pretty sure Hurricane Wing is physical not magical. At least in Nyzul Isle, when we used to get Fafnir, drinking Fanatic's drink (Nullifies physical damage) would result in me getting hit for 0 damage by Fafnir's Wing spams. Whether bar-element spells help reduce its damage, I'm not sure.
    The description on fanatics drink is misleading. It will stop most enemy weaponskills regardless of whether they are classified as magical or physical damage. This has come up a lot in the salvage threads since it stops magic-based chariot TP moves as well.

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    Re: Resistance Builds

    Being bored in the Aery, I subjected myself to eating some Wings from Nidhogg.

    410 damage normally

    410 damage with just Protect IV

    320 damage with just Shell IV

    410 damage with just 111 wind resistance. Got hit 3 times like this. Not really enough to prove anything but that's all the wind ele resistance junk I had on me.

    Didn't have any other fancy gear to test with.

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    Re: Resistance Builds

    Quote Originally Posted by Aragon of Odin
    Having a hard time finding information on moves of specific mobs and what their damage is actually considered and how to help build a resistance against such moves so any help would be appreciated.
    Heat Breath- Is it considered Breath Damage? Will -magic damage taken help against it? Will MDB+ help against it? Is it considered fire damage so + Fire resistance will help against it? Which of all would help most against it?

    Great Sandstorm- Will -magic damage taken gear help with this? Will an earth resistance build help against this? Will MDB+ help against this? Which would help most? If none what will help against this?

    Great Whirlwind- Will -magic damage taken help agaibst this? Will a wind resistance build help against this? Will MDB+ help against this? Which would help most? If none what will help against this?

    Hurricane Wing- Will -magic damage taken help against this? Will a wind resistance build help against this? Will MDB+ help against this? Which would help most? If none what will help against this?

    Dragon Breath- Obviously -breath damage taken would help against this but being Nin you really don't get access to this kind of gear much at all. I understand that a fire resistance build will help greatly against this but is it considered magic damage as well so MDB+ and -magic damage taken will help against this also? If not is there anything else that will help against this?

    Spike Flail- lol j/k

    Thanks for your help and input in advance.
    Spike flail is blinkable, 3-4 shadows.

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