-DeathHouse- dynamis (unique lotting system)

[goshtin]

(sorry if this breaking the rules, delete the post if it is, or move it accoridngly. I'm really sorry, I'm getting messed aroudn at work and my breaks nearly over. couldnt find a suitable place to post this)

-DeathHouse- dynamis linkshell is now open for recruitment!
experiance and love the new lotting system designed to give peeps the chance to priortise AF to their own desires! never again will a DRG with a gimp 65BLM lot that fucking afv2 hat you've been pinning after since you started the friggin game!

This linkshell is built for the long term with relic in mind and loot whoring left out! If you want to join a new community filled with over 3 years gaming experiance and hundreds of dynamis runs, then visit our website and sign up.

http://www.freewebs.com/deathhousehades/

ALL rules and information are posted there, but any questions feel free to /tell
Grieverao (shell holder) or Goshtin (main sack)

applications are currently handled on a personal basis, and our first run is scheduled for
Wednesday the 11th of July
Dynamis- Sandoria
6pm EST ~ 11pm GMT ~ 2am JST

- check out the forum
- /tell Goshtin or Grieverao
- ????
- PROFIT!!


we look forward to hearing from you soon


once again sorry if I broke any rules

[Priran]

probably not the best place to post this

[Fng]

and your lot system fails. It makes no mention of min level to lot. So as your point system stands, the 75 Dragoon can out bid your 75 BLMs. It also highly favors older members. Good luck attracting new BLMs to your foray... your point system heavily favors older members to the point that anyone that comes for more than 3 events will realize they will never get a shot at any coveted AF. If I was one of the top 3 BLM's we would be a tight group, 4 point bids all around.

[vegetaa]

I just plugged my translator, here's the output :

Hey guyz lol !
I want to upgrade Gungnir, so I created that new Dynamis LS. Free AFs do you need it ?! Everyone gets a chance, and we are skilled because we've been doing 3 Dynamis runs per week since 1997. Come get your BLM AF hats guyz !!! I'll lot the currencies but don't pay attention to that, the LS is focused on AF2zzzzzz !!!!11oneone!!

Interesting.

[Shuemue]

HAY GUYZ CUM HALP ME AND MY CHUMZ GET SWIFT BELTZ AND U CAN HAVE AF2Z

[goshtin]

the lotting system is designed to work in a way that makes ppl with more points, spend more points on items they really want.

take me for example... if I go to EVERY run.. I can have way too many points compared to a new person. The idea is that I end up in a bidding war and can spend as many points as I want, in order to secure the item..

if anything it's designed to bring more new people to the shell. my limbus and hnm shell have similar (though not identical systems)... the other week we got a ridill, and the leader bid ALL his points.. he'd have been in first place anyway, but it means he didnt spend 3 points or somthing stupid and still retain the stop spot. Now he has as many points as me, but got somthing he REALLY wanted.

I've seen older dynamis shell.. they are just full of people with a gajjillion points.. they dont get new members until everyone else has their AF, because the new members are unable to compete

(and the min lvl is posted somewhere on site, it was 70)

in my example.. if the drg had way more points than the 75blm, then he would have to sacrifice the chance of AF on his DRG to get af for his 2nd job(the 70 blm)... disregarding that most ppl would take the blm hat over the loldrgAF, if he saw DRG as his main, he may not want to sacrifice the points when he enters the bidding with the 75blm.

thanks for the input but griev and I have better things to do than rip people off, and we've had very positive responses to the rules and ideas from members and non-members.

[fantasticdan]

I didn't read much of that, but this part in particular is bogus:

::Earning additional points::

In main status we are a Dynamis Linkshell. That will not be changing. Although there may come a time when other linkshell events do occur to aid the loyal members we have with us. For example, we may schedule "pop" NM runs etc for things like Rostrum Pumps, Optical Hats, Swift Belts/Subligars etc. Now outside of normal LS hours you will find a lot of members have other events to attend. That is why we will offer additional points for members who show for these "alternative" events.

You will earn 2 points for attending an alternative LS event in aiding our members.

[vegetaa]

Let me get my translator again :

Guyzzzz ! I forgot to tell you I and my friends may need Rostrum Pumpz or an Opticale Hatz (LOL HATZZZ) in the near future. So come and halp me get it, and I'll give you even more POINTZZZ so you can lot on even more BLM HATZZZZ !

[Judai]

bg is not the place to recruit. also a bad place to post your rules unless you want ppl to rip them apart. go to alla/ki/dynamiscalendar or something and try again. baibai^^/

[vegetaa]

I like my translator very much, so I took the liberty to try it on Judai's post :

bg is not the place to recruit. also a bad place to post your rules unless you want ppl to rip them apart. go to alla/ki/dynamiscalendar or something and try again. baibai^^/

GTFO. But we hope you or your members will come back here in a few months to post some funny drama generated by your crappy set of rules !

(ninja-edit ftw)

[Judai]

I like my translator very much, so I took the liberty to try it on Judai's post :

bg is not the place to recruit. also a bad place to post your rules unless you want ppl to rip them apart. go to alla/ki/dynamiscalendar or something and try again. baibai^^/

GTFO. But we hope you or your members will come back here in a few months to post some funny drama generated by your crappy set of rules !

(ninja-edit ftw)

qft. I was trying to be nice about saying GTFO for once;;

[goshtin]

tbh I REALLY didn't wanna post in this place like this. I was expecting there to be some sort of "random ffxi" thread. closest I could find was this.

*waits for thread to be deleted* Buutttt it's all good. (btw your translators rubbish, theres a much better one on KI hades forum lol. works great on "txt speek")

[Kuya]

This reminds me of Lucita's shout for random people in whitegate Dynamis Linkshell. They even shout for people during their dynamis runs.

[Zosi]

Bidding systems can work, but you really NEED strict controls on main and sub lots. You have to realize all AF was not created equally, and some AF is much more desired/rare than others, to the point of if you have the job leveled, you'd be foolish to not bid as many points as you could on that item. Some examples of this are RDM hat, BLM hat, THF hands. Nobody's ever going to bid more than the minimum on DRG feet, DRK legs, THF body, etc.

I know this because the Dynamis LS I've been in for the past year or so uses a bidding system similar to yours but with main/sub70/sub60 declarations, and while it's worked extremely well for us, the "best" main lots (RDM, BLM, NIN) have been several times more competitive than the less crowded melee jobs like DRK or DRG, meaning bids of 40+ (at one point per run) for BLM hat aren't uncommon. In your system, it'd be entirely possible for someone with DRG and BLM leveled to blow as many points as he wanted on BLM, and still be able to get DRG AF for virtually nothing. On the other hand, the person who has BLM, RDM, BRD, WHM, NIN and THF leveled has to spend the same amount of points for a shot at BLM AF, but will end up with nothing else, because their other jobs are also heavily competitive.

We still face that issue with our system occasionally, but it'd be absolute chaos without any kind of main lot system to keep sane limits on the number of people bidding and lotting on the most competitive AF.

[goshtin]

you suggest we should make people identify their "main"?
I did think of that a while back, but an issue I have is that we could have say 3 main blms and 1 main drg. the drg may have to wait for his turn then, but if we got another blm into the shell (as his main) it'd put the drg back down again.

in that situation, it might be possible to let the drg get bid priority if he had.. (for example) 20 points more than any following blm.

damned drgs...


-also
if people want to spend all their points on an item, that'd be their call. treat it like the auction house. and the opportunity cost would be w/e u couldnt get with the points u've lost..
perhaps a point bidding cap would help later on...

[Zosi]

Well, it's pretty obvious that you're intent on letting the person with the most points have whatever AF they want, and that nothing that I can say is going to convince you otherwise. Good luck with your shell, hopefully you'll figure out why this crazy "main lot" thing is so much more popular than "lot whatever you want" eventually.

[Fng]

the only thing to keep your older members bidding alot of points is your newer and the "main BST who comes BLM" bidding BLM against them.

Seriously your point system fails here hard core. Make a 70 + plus rule or a "have to be able to equip rule" or your point system fails.

Also, how are you going to KEEP those wonderful people that have all the items they want w/o offering up 100s as an alternative item?

[Ksandra]

I've seen older dynamis shell.. they are just full of people with a gajjillion points.. they dont get new members until everyone else has their AF, because the new members are unable to compete

Our dynamis has a point system on a main job lot system that has worked out really well and has made it so new members can still get the af they want. I would suggest that if you manage to see Reinheart online (he has a baby though so isn't on much) he can offer suggestions on the point system.

Don't tell him I told you to talk to him though, he'd fart on me @@;

[Grieverao]

Fng: I wish you would actually "read" our rules instead of skimming and not knowing. There is a 70+ rule in DH and unless we see you actively on that job to verify then you are not allowed to bid on that job's AF.

http://deathhouse.forumup.com/viewtopic ... deathhouse

"posted 2nd July" just to prove i'm not entertaining you.


Sure if you want to flame our LS then fine idc. I just wish you'd do so AFTER reading our rules.

Our rules are unique (to our server at least) and are set in place so that people set their own value on their AF.

So when we do get a RDM hat drop then obviously the RDM we have who has saved his points as best as he can can outbid any other eligible RDM's in the shell. So say we have the top 3 RDM's.

1 has been with LS longest has 47 points and saved his ass up
1 has been with LS 4 weeks and has 16 points
1 is on his second run and has 3 points.

Minimum number of points to bid is 3.

Obviously the first RDM who has worked his ass off can outbid the other 2

So all he has to do is bid 17 points and the hat is his, we make note and he's a happy chappy

The other members still hold their points for the next potential bid.

Hence why you set your own value on your AF.

Look > leap, this thread was a means to get the attention of Hades players who may not look on places like KI.

I'm not here to start a flame, I only came here to make you aware that by actually reading the rules you may understand and respect our rules.

I would not want any potential members of DH to be deterred from joining our LS because of a bunch of bored people on a forum decided to flame a topic they didn't know the 100% content of.

[Sonomaa]

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